Jobs in Gauteng
147 jobs foundSupergroup
R8,500 - R12,500 per month
Deliver gym supplements, protein powders, and fitness equipment to gyms and health stores across Johannesburg.
Imperial Logistics
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Transport paint, ladders, scaffolding, and brushes for a painting contractor across Pretoria. Assist crew with setup at …
Steel & Metal Delivery Driver
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eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R18,000 - R25,000 per month
We are looking for a reliable and experienced Steel & Metal Delivery Driver to join our logistics team in Johannesburg. …
Cold Chain Refrigerated Truck Driver
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eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R22,000 - R30,000 per month
Deliver temperature-controlled goods including frozen foods and pharmaceuticals across Gauteng and neighbouring province…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R25,000 - R35,000 per month
Transport petroleum products between refineries, depots, and service stations across Gauteng. This is a high-responsibil…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R28,000 - R40,000 per month
Oversee a fleet of 30+ vehicles for a major logistics company in Johannesburg. Manage drivers, routes, maintenance sched…
Car Carrier Transport Driver
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eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R22,000 - R30,000 per month
Transport new and used vehicles on a car carrier (auto transporter) between dealerships, auction houses, and ports acros…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R28,000 - R38,000 per month
Drive an interlink (super-link) truck transporting containerised and palletised freight between Johannesburg, Durban, an…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver pool pumps, filters, chemicals, and accessories to residential customers and pool shops across Pretoria and Cent…
Office Stationery Delivery Driver
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eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R8,500 - R12,500 per month
Deliver office stationery, printer cartridges, and cleaning supplies to government departments and corporate offices acr…
Safe & Vault Moving Specialist
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DSV
R15,000 - R22,000 per month
Move heavy safes, vaults, and strong rooms for banks, businesses, and homes. Requires specialised stair-climbing equipme…
Value Logistics
R6,000 - R10,000 per month
Transport pets (dogs, cats) between homes, vets, groomers, and kennels across Johannesburg. Must love animals and have a…
Imperial Logistics
R9,500 - R13,500 per month
Deliver printed banners, signage, vehicle wraps, and display stands from our Midrand print shop to clients across Gauten…
Breast Milk Bank Collection Driver
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eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R11,000 - R15,000 per month
Collect donated breast milk from hospitals and collection points. Transport at controlled temperature to breast milk ban…
Bakkie Driver — E-Waste Collection
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Unitrans
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Collect electronic waste (old computers, printers, TVs) from businesses and homes across the East Rand for recycling. En…
eCommerce Returns Collection Driver
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Value Logistics
R8,500 - R12,000 per month
Collect eCommerce returns from customers across Johannesburg and deliver to our returns processing centre. Growing rever…
R16,000 - R22,000 per month
Manage all fleet insurance claims — accidents, theft, hijacking, windscreen, and third-party. Coordinate with insurers, …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R15,000 per month
Deliver building materials, tools, and hardware supplies from our Pretoria warehouse to customers across Gauteng. Must b…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R17,000 - R24,000 per month
Drive a ready-mix concrete truck delivering fresh concrete to construction sites across Pretoria and Centurion. Time-cri…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R7,000 - R11,000 per month
Express motorcycle courier in the Johannesburg CBD and Braamfontein area. Deliver urgent documents, legal papers, and sm…
R9,000 - R14,000 per month
Deliver tiles, laminate flooring, and bathroom fittings from our Randburg showroom to customers across northern Johannes…
Cargo Carriers
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Collect confidential documents from offices and banks in Pretoria for secure shredding at our destruction facility. Requ…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R18,000 - R25,000 per month
Drive asphalt delivery truck for road resurfacing projects across Gauteng. 12-month SANRAL contract. Hot material handli…
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver fresh produce, dry goods, and kitchen supplies to restaurants across Johannesburg. Early morning deliveries to e…
Supergroup
R20,000 - R28,000 per month
Coordinate procurement of new vehicles and disposal of old fleet units. Manage dealer relationships, negotiate pricing, …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver custom-made blinds, curtains, and shutters to homes across Pretoria. Basic fitting assistance may be required.
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Deliver oxygen concentrators and CPAP machines to patients at home. Setup equipment, demonstrate usage, and collect old …
Unitrans
R4,500 - R7,500 per month
Deliver weekly organic fruit and vegetable boxes to subscribers across northern Johannesburg. Thursday deliveries only. …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R6,000 - R10,000 per month
Move church pews, pulpits, lecterns, and sound equipment for church relocations and renovations. Respectful handling of …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R20,000 per month
Join a 24/7 roadside assistance company in Johannesburg as a Tow Truck Driver. Respond to breakdowns, accidents, and veh…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R4,000 - R7,000 per month
Weekend-only bakkie driver needed for fresh produce and artisan market deliveries in Sandton and northern Johannesburg s…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R20,000 - R28,000 per month
Manage night fleet operations from our Kempton Park control room. Monitor 50+ vehicles via tracking systems, coordinate …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R20,000 per month
Lead a team of 4 movers specialising in office relocations across Johannesburg. Transport desks, chairs, IT equipment, f…
Barloworld Transport
R13,000 - R18,000 per month
Transport stage equipment, lighting rigs, sound systems, and set pieces for theatre productions and concerts across Gaut…
Imperial Logistics
R15,000 - R22,000 per month
Specialise in moving pianos, organs, and heavy musical instruments. Requires specialised equipment and extreme care. Pre…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R12,000 - R17,000 per month
Deliver commercial kitchen equipment (stainless steel counters, ovens, fryers) to restaurants and hotels across Johannes…
R4,000 - R7,000 per month
Transport craft supplies, display stands, and products for craft market vendors. Saturday markets at Rosebank, Bryanston…
Barloworld Transport
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Pick, pack, and dispatch online orders from our JHB fulfilment centre. Drive local last-mile deliveries in the afternoon…
Value Logistics
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver compressed mattress-in-a-box products to homes across Pretoria for online mattress brand. Help customers carry t…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Transport pest control chemicals, sprayers, and equipment between depot and treatment sites across Johannesburg. Chemica…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R8,000 - R12,000 per month
Part-time delivery driver for a growing e-commerce fulfilment company in Johannesburg. Deliver online shopping orders to…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R12,000 - R20,000 per month
Own a bakkie? Join the eBakkie network and earn money doing deliveries and small moves in Soweto and surrounding areas. …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R20,000 - R28,000 per month
Deliver diesel fuel to construction sites, mining operations, and fleet depots across Gauteng using a fuel bowser truck.…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver chronic medication parcels to patients at their homes across Pretoria. Sensitive role requiring discretion, reli…
Reinhardt Transport
R10,000 - R15,000 per month
Transport solar panels, inverters, and mounting equipment to installation sites across Gauteng. Assist installation team…
Imperial Logistics
R10,000 - R15,000 per month
Deliver fibre optic cables, routers, ONTs, and installation equipment to fibre installation teams across Johannesburg. F…
Cargo Carriers
R22,000 - R30,000 per month
Transport mobile cranes on lowbed between our JHB depot and construction sites nationwide. Coordinate crane mobilisation…
Manline
R5,000 - R9,000 per month
Deliver weekly meal kit boxes to subscribers across northern Johannesburg. Wednesday and Thursday deliveries only. Refri…
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Deliver IBR roofing sheets, corrugated iron, and roof trusses from our Pretoria factory to construction sites. Oversized…
Supergroup
R4,500 - R7,500 per month
Deliver engraved trophies, plaques, and corporate awards to schools, sports clubs, and businesses. Fragile items requiri…
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Deliver galvanised steel sheets, zinc roof sheeting, and flashings from our JHB steel service centre to roofing contract…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R20,000 - R26,000 per month
Transport heavy steel coils from ArcelorMittal and other steel mills in Vanderbijlpark to customers across South Africa.…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R7,000 - R12,000 per month
Transport event equipment including marquees, tables, chairs, sound systems, and decor between our warehouse and event v…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Transport medical specimens, lab results, and pharmaceutical supplies between hospitals, clinics, and pathology laborato…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R20,000 per month
Night shift frozen goods delivery to restaurants, hotels, and retailers across Johannesburg. Operate refrigerated truck …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R22,000 - R32,000 per month
Regular long-haul trips between Johannesburg and Cape Town (1,400km). Two trips per week with overnight stops. Modern tr…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R15,000 - R21,000 per month
Transport structural steel components (I-beams, H-columns, purlins) from fabrication workshop in Vanderbijlpark to erect…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R19,000 per month
Deliver medical oxygen cylinders and concentrators to hospitals, clinics, and home patients across Pretoria. Life-critic…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R17,000 - R23,000 per month
Transport scrap metal from collection yards to recycling plants and foundries across Gauteng. Operate side-tipper and fl…
R13,000 - R18,000 per month
Deliver precast concrete products (manholes, pipes, retaining walls, kerbs) from our Midrand factory to infrastructure a…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Deliver genuine car parts from our parts warehouse to car dealership service centres across Gauteng. Urgent parts for wa…
Supergroup
R11,000 - R15,000 per month
Deliver palisade fencing, razor wire, security barriers, and gate motors to residential and commercial properties across…
R10,000 - R15,000 per month
Deliver lithium batteries, inverters, and solar components to homes and businesses for loadshedding solutions. Booming m…
R16,000 - R22,000 per month
Coordinate tyre management and preventive maintenance for a 50-vehicle fleet. Track tyre wear, schedule rotations, and m…
Barloworld Transport
R13,000 - R17,000 per month
Transport large newsprint paper rolls from mills to newspaper printing presses across Johannesburg. Rolls weigh 500kg+ e…
Imperial Logistics
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Manage cosmetics and beauty product inventory at our JHB warehouse. Deliver to salons, spas, and beauty supply stores.
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R15,000 - R22,000 per month
Drive pilot/escort vehicles for abnormal load convoys transporting heavy machinery, prefabricated structures, and oversi…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R25,000 - R35,000 per month
Manage the vehicle workshop for a fleet of 60+ trucks and bakkies. Oversee maintenance schedules, workshop staff, parts …
Value Logistics
R11,000 - R16,000 per month
Deliver computers, monitors, printers, and networking equipment to corporate offices across Sandton and Johannesburg. Ba…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R12,000 - R17,000 per month
Distribute fresh bread and bakery products from our Johannesburg bakery to supermarkets and cafes before 06:00 daily. Ea…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R19,000 per month
Transport electrical transformers, switchgear, and cables from our Germiston factory to Eskom substations and industrial…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R15,000 - R22,000 per month
Transport pharmaceuticals and vaccines at controlled temperatures between warehouses, hospitals, and pharmacies. GDP (Go…
Cargo Carriers
R13,000 - R18,000 per month
Deliver and install furniture for new hotel openings and refurbishments. Transport beds, desks, wardrobes, and lounge fu…
Cargo Carriers
R22,000 - R32,000 per month
Investigate all fleet accidents, compile reports, and recommend safety improvements. Conduct driver safety audits and ma…
Barloworld Transport
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Manage battery and UPS stock at our JHB warehouse. Deliver to offices and homes for loadshedding backup installations. B…
Cargo Carriers
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Deliver, service, and collect portable toilets at construction sites and events across Gauteng. Not glamorous but stable…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R16,000 - R22,000 per month
Deliver building materials including sand, stone, cement, bricks, and roofing to construction sites across Sandton and g…
Value Logistics
R9,500 - R13,500 per month
Manage hire depot for industrial cleaning equipment (floor scrubbers, pressure washers, carpet cleaners). Deliver and co…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R20,000 per month
Deliver pharmaceutical products to hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies across Gauteng. Must understand SAHPRA regulations…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R15,000 - R21,000 per month
Collect and transport medical waste from hospitals, clinics, and laboratories to licensed treatment facilities in Gauten…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R19,000 per month
Transport aluminium frames, glass panels, and glazing materials from our Boksburg factory to installation sites. Require…
Reinhardt Transport
R13,000 - R18,000 per month
Transport industrial gas cylinders (oxygen, acetylene, argon, CO2) to factories and workshops in the Vaal Triangle. Haza…
Reinhardt Transport
R12,000 - R17,000 per month
Transport glass panes, aluminium window frames, and shopfronts from our Benoni factory to installation sites. Extreme ca…
Barloworld Transport
R12,000 - R17,000 per month
Deliver treadmills, exercise bikes, weight benches, and gym equipment to homes and commercial gyms across Johannesburg. …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R15,000 per month
Fast-paced courier delivery role in Pretoria. Deliver parcels, documents, and small freight across Tshwane metro using a…
Imperial Logistics
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Deliver wheelchairs, walkers, hospital beds, and mobility aids to patients and care facilities. Set up equipment and dem…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R18,000 - R25,000 per month
Supervise warehouse operations and coordinate dispatch of outbound shipments at our Johannesburg South distribution cent…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Drive a 30-seater school bus on morning and afternoon routes in Pretoria. Requires PrDP for passengers and a genuine lov…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver legal documents between law firms, courts, the deeds office, and CIPC across Johannesburg. Time-sensitive filing…
Cargo Carriers
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver industrial cleaning chemicals, detergents, and hygiene products to factories, hotels, and cleaning companies acr…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R11,000 - R15,000 per month
Move furniture and belongings between self-storage units, homes, and our Pretoria storage facility. Help customers load/…
Value Logistics
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver custom-made steel and wrought-iron gates, balustrades, and staircases from our Johannesburg workshop to homes. H…
Cargo Carriers
R13,000 - R18,000 per month
Relocate gym equipment (treadmills, weight machines, squat racks) for commercial gyms opening new locations or closing d…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R20,000 per month
Relocate server racks, UPS systems, and IT infrastructure for corporate data centre moves. Anti-static handling and clim…
Supergroup
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Distribute chilled ready meals from our central kitchen to convenience stores and petrol stations across Johannesburg. E…
Cargo Carriers
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Distribute chocolate and confectionery in temperature-controlled vehicle to retailers across Gauteng. Temperature critic…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R18,000 - R25,000 per month
Contract driver for regular furniture removal runs between Johannesburg and Cape Town. 1,400km route via N1/N12. Accommo…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Deliver LP gas cylinders to residential and commercial customers across Pretoria and Tshwane. Must hold Hazchem certific…
Barloworld Transport
R11,000 - R15,000 per month
Deliver packaged ice to garages, bottle stores, restaurants, and events across Pretoria. Extremely busy during summer an…
R24,000 - R34,000 per month
Drive flatbed truck transporting steel products from Johannesburg to customers across all 9 provinces. Average 2 long-ha…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Work in our -25°C cold storage warehouse picking frozen orders, then deliver locally. Cold-weather PPE provided. Must be…
Imperial Logistics
R18,000 - R25,000 per month
Distribute bulk maize meal from our Randfontein mill to wholesalers and retailers across Gauteng and North West. SA stap…
Supergroup
R17,000 - R23,000 per month
Drive a hook-lift waste truck collecting industrial waste skips from factories and businesses. Deliver to licensed landf…
R19,000 - R27,000 per month
Transport bulk mineral water from springs in Mpumalanga to our Johannesburg bottling plant. 2-3 round trips per day on t…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R18,000 - R25,000 per month
Transport fibreglass swimming pool shells from factory to residential installation sites across Gauteng. Oversized loads…
R11,000 - R16,000 per month
Courier service for high-value electronics (laptops, smartphones, tablets) between distributors, retailers, and repair c…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Drive a scrap metal collection truck across the East Rand. Collect ferrous and non-ferrous metals from businesses, works…
Manline
R5,000 - R8,000 per month
Deliver framed artwork, canvases, and gallery pieces to homes, offices, and galleries across Johannesburg. Extreme care …
Reinhardt Transport
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Process eCommerce returns at our JHB warehouse, inspect items, repackage for resale, and redistribute to outlet stores. …
R12,000 - R17,000 per month
Move hospital beds, medical cabinets, and clinic furniture between healthcare facilities in Pretoria. Hygiene and infect…
R8,500 - R12,500 per month
Deliver motorcycle and scooter parts from our Springs warehouse to dealerships and workshops across the East Rand. Fast-…
R13,000 - R18,000 per month
Transport cut flowers at 2-4°C from flower farms to OR Tambo Airport cargo terminal for international export. Time-criti…
Cargo Carriers
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Collect pathology samples from doctor rooms, clinics, and hospitals in Pretoria. Transport to central laboratory. Biohaz…
Value Logistics
R22,000 - R32,000 per month
Ensure fleet of 80+ vehicles maintains full regulatory compliance — COF, licences, insurance, and RTMS standards. Office…
R14,000 - R19,000 per month
Manage hazardous materials storage (chemicals, solvents, flammables) at our Germiston facility and deliver to customers.…
Value Logistics
R5,000 - R9,000 per month
Deliver fresh sushi platters, salads, and prepared meals from our Sandton kitchen to corporate offices for lunch. 10:00-…
R20,000 - R28,000 per month
Transport custom-fabricated stainless steel tanks, vessels, and pressure equipment from our JHB workshop to food, bevera…
Cargo Carriers
R10,000 - R15,000 per month
Collect and deliver artworks between auction houses, galleries, and private collectors in Johannesburg. White-glove serv…
Barloworld Transport
R24,000 - R33,000 per month
Drive a refrigerated superlink between Johannesburg and Durban transporting frozen and chilled foods. Two round trips pe…
Barloworld Transport
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Distribute frozen dough products (bread, pies, pastries) from our central kitchen to franchise bakery outlets across Joh…
R11,000 - R15,000 per month
Transport banking documents, cheques, and confidential files between bank branches, head offices, and the Reserve Bank i…
R20,000 - R28,000 per month
Train new and existing drivers on defensive driving, vehicle operation, and company safety standards. Conduct practical …
R20,000 - R28,000 per month
Drive overnight mail and parcel truck between Johannesburg and Durban or Cape Town for postal and courier company. Depar…
R14,000 - R19,000 per month
Transport piling equipment, steel casings, and concrete to foundation piling sites across Johannesburg. Support piling c…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R19,000 per month
Deliver ballistic steel panels and armoured vehicle components from our Pretoria factory to defence contractors and vehi…
Barloworld Transport
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Collect DNA samples from collection points, clinics, and attorneys for paternity and forensic testing. Chain-of-custody …
R12,000 - R17,000 per month
Deliver wire rope, chains, shackles, and rigging equipment from our JHB warehouse to mines, cranes, and construction sit…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R12,000 - R16,000 per month
Distribute paper reams, cardboard boxes, packaging materials, and bubble wrap from our JHB South warehouse to print shop…
R8,000 - R12,000 per month
Deliver architectural plans, blueprints, and building submissions between architects, engineers, municipalities, and con…
Barloworld Transport
R22,000 - R30,000 per month
Drive overland safari trucks transporting tourists between Johannesburg, Kruger Park, Victoria Falls, and Mozambique. Mu…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Manage solar panel inventory at our JHB warehouse and dispatch to installers. Booming loadshedding solutions market. Han…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Restock vending machines with snacks, drinks, and fresh meals at offices, hospitals, and universities across Johannesbur…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R14,000 - R19,000 per month
Move laboratory equipment, fume hoods, and lab furniture for universities and research facilities in Pretoria. Sensitive…
R4,500 - R7,500 per month
Deliver flower arrangements, gift baskets, and hampers to recipients across Johannesburg. Peak demand around Valentine's…
Manline
R13,000 - R18,000 per month
Collect used oil from workshops, restaurants, and factories across the East Rand for recycling. Operate vacuum pump on c…
Manline
R11,000 - R16,000 per month
Drive a rubble removal truck collecting construction waste from building sites across Johannesburg. Dispose at licensed …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R22,000 - R32,000 per month
Transport new vehicles on car carrier from assembly plants and ports to dealerships across South Africa. Handle premium …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R11,000 - R15,000 per month
Pick pharmaceutical orders in our Midrand warehouse and deliver to pharmacies across Gauteng. GDP (Good Distribution Pra…
Barloworld Transport
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver drone parts, cameras, batteries, and electronics to aerial photography companies and drone operators across Gaut…
Barloworld Transport
R9,000 - R13,000 per month
Deliver copper pipes, brass fittings, and plumbing valves from our JHB warehouse to plumbing merchants and contractors. …
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R6,000 - R12,000 per month
Transport wedding cakes, custom cakes, and confectionery to venues across Johannesburg. Extreme care required — these ar…
Barloworld Transport
R10,000 - R14,000 per month
Manage PPE and safety equipment warehouse. Deliver hard hats, overalls, safety boots, and harnesses to construction site…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R9,500 - R14,000 per month
Deliver pipes, geysers, taps, and plumbing fittings from our Roodepoort warehouse to plumbers and construction sites acr…
Barloworld Transport
R14,000 - R20,000 per month
Support driver for cash-in-transit operations. Drive armoured vehicle between banks, ATMs, and retail clients. High-secu…
eBakkie (Pty) Ltd
R18,000 - R26,000 per month
Manage vehicle telematics systems (Ctrack, MiX Telematics) for a fleet of 100+ vehicles. Monitor driver behaviour, geofe…
Imperial Logistics
R12,000 - R17,000 per month
Deliver and install industrial steel shelving, pallet racking, and mezzanine components at warehouses and retail stores …
Imperial Logistics
R12,000 - R18,000 per month
High-security courier transporting jewellery, watches, and precious metals between jewellers, gem labs, and the Johannes…